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I think the issue here is 'the thing end of the wedge' and i don't think for humor's sake, but for the forums sake, we ought to try and steer clear from racist comments, threads and jokes.
The original joke, is just that a joke, but from that people try to draw some actual questions about whether or not a mosque should be 'allowed', because some people - who happened to be Muslims - carried out a terrible act. Do we pull down all the churches close to the house of a Christian murderer? NO! The joke also shows a naivety toward the American constitution and internal politics, and the relationship that it has to organised religion. The question is this - if the Mosque passes all the plannig rules etc. why not? |
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I am not causing trouble! posting this stuff in the first place is doing that You have to see these things in context, and in the light of recent 'racist troubles' i think it is inapropriate. lets make a deal, lay of with the racist postings, and i'll lay off commenting about them! |
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30-01-2011, 18:01 | #35 |
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easy way to kills omeones freedom of speech....just call them racist and bump they datre not say another word for fear of bein ostracsized (or however you spell it).
do you realy believe the founders of this mosque would let any of those things happen,no yet the americans will alow them to build there mosque for fear of being labbeled racist. and like the man said mosque = religion not race so no racist comments anywhere ! |
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Not at all. Action cannot be taken on opinions alone. They must be evidenced. If the evidence is there to support those opinions "in all probability" or "beyond reasonable doubt" whoever posted them has a problem. One very strong the reason we have these laws as I tried to explain earlier, is the very bigots and half wits who whinge about them caused them by not shutting up. They continued whinging on with extreme comments that crossed the border of the middle ground or grey area of what is acceptable or not. If those numpties had shut up and let common decency and tolerance rule there would not have been any need at all for prescriptive legislation. simples, you reap what you sow. |
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and the mosque in question is totally fictitious of course.
And if we are talking religion (oh lets!?) then christian fundamentalism is a much bigger problem in the USA than Islam I'd say. And heres a good example of why the internet can be such a load of crap. While looking for the dead opposite of the word secular, I found this on WikiAnswers * Secular means of or relating to the doctrine that rejects religion and religious considerations. Therefore the opposite to this has to be spiritual i.e concerned with sacred matters or religion or the church. The peoples of the world today are basically secular. * The opposite of secular is "theocratic". It means a form of government by God or through a priestly order e.g: France or Pakistan. The bits in red are ummm...... |
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I have no interest in religion and no religious beliefs. Religion is one of the biggest trouble causers in history.
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MORE IMPORTANTLY - WHY ARE MY POSTS BEING DELETED, AND WHY IS THIS THREAD NOT SHOWING UP IN THE 'NEW POSTS SECTION'
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