Early MOT...

zephyr · 14-05-2018, 15:20

Hey all, I have just realised that MOT will change and be more harsh to the diesels. As I was reading the page at .gov for the details, it says;

Quote:

4. Diesel vehicle emissions
There will be stricter limits for emissions from diesel cars with a diesel particulate filter (DPF).

You’ll test vehicles to the manufacturer’s plate value (when present), or a new lower default limit for newer vehicles.

You’ll also give a major fault if you:
- can see smoke of any colour coming from the exhaust
- find evidence that the DPF has been tampered with

...."can see smoke of any colour coming from the exhaust" - Does this mean any smoke when you start the engine or when it's idling after the engine starts?

My T2 blew a bit of white/slight blue-ish smoke at times and I was wondering if this would become a "major fault"?

RJL Services · 14-05-2018, 15:45

i always take mine to mot's with veg oil they can't get it to read on machine

tester says he cant fail it because of a no reading only if it exceeds limits

jims-terrano · 14-05-2018, 16:14

We also don’t have DPFs, think most of that is aimed at newer vehicles than ours.
Keep it serviced correctly, put a reasonable amount of new veg oil and take it for a good long run to burn crap out of the engine. Should sail through emissions testing then.

Barrbeast · 14-05-2018, 17:44

Guys it's right at the start of that paragraph "stricter limits for emissions from diesel cars with a diesel particulate filter (DPF)" - our trucks don't have DPFs so the new regs won't apply.

zephyr · 15-05-2018, 12:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barrbeast

Guys it's right at the start of that paragraph "stricter limits for emissions from diesel cars with a diesel particulate filter (DPF)" - our trucks don't have DPFs so the new regs won't apply.

Oh I see, if this is the case then I didn't have to rush MOT now (original schedule was in Dec) - though it is not ideal to do anything during winter time so might not be a bad move....

macabethiel, yes, that would be good to hear any comments from the tester.

zephyr · 15-05-2018, 13:02

Forgot to tell you for those who are in London.

I was using Universal Tyres Greenwich branch who were very reasonable and there were bunch of friendly people. Sadly for some reason they decided to close this branch. So now I'm bringing my T2 to their Plaistow branch. I would've recommended this garage to anyone in London, however I will need to see if their Plaistow branch is also good as reviews at Google have fairly lower scores comparing to Greenwich branch.

If you are in London and know any good garage who knows about Terrano, please let me know.

macabethiel · 14-05-2018, 17:52

I understand that the Diesel Smoke test is still done when the engine is at normal running temperature on a ramp so no fears with cold engine smoke or on the over-run at speed.

On older vehicles like my Jeep there is no DPF, my understanding is that if at constant revs there is visible smoke it is a fail.

I have yet to see any Diesel car that does not show some visible smoke for a short period during acceleration!

Lastly just about every City Bus & HGV in Derby is going to fail if the test is going to be as severe as it sounds.

I just hope there is some common sense come testing time our is not due until next February so that gives the tester time to get over the learning dip / curve!

Do we have an MoT tester amongst our Mebers that has had the new training course to give us some wise words?

14-05-2018, 17:52	#7
macabethiel Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Derby Vehicle: Freelander & Jeep GC 3.0 Posts: 4,415	New visible smoke test rules ? I understand that the Diesel Smoke test is still done when the engine is at normal running temperature on a ramp so no fears with cold engine smoke or on the over-run at speed. On older vehicles like my Jeep there is no DPF, my understanding is that if at constant revs there is visible smoke it is a fail. I have yet to see any Diesel car that does not show some visible smoke for a short period during acceleration! Lastly just about every City Bus & HGV in Derby is going to fail if the test is going to be as severe as it sounds. I just hope there is some common sense come testing time our is not due until next February so that gives the tester time to get over the learning dip / curve! Do we have an MoT tester amongst our Mebers that has had the new training course to give us some wise words?

14-05-2018, 15:45	#2
RJL Services Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: southwest gloucester Vehicle: Nissan Terrano 2.7 2003 Posts: 615	i always take mine to mot's with veg oil they can't get it to read on machine tester says he cant fail it because of a no reading only if it exceeds limits

14-05-2018, 16:14	#3
jims-terrano Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: UK Posts: 12,965	We also don’t have DPFs, think most of that is aimed at newer vehicles than ours. Keep it serviced correctly, put a reasonable amount of new veg oil and take it for a good long run to burn crap out of the engine. Should sail through emissions testing then.

14-05-2018, 17:44	#4
Barrbeast Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Dundee, Scotland Vehicle: 1990 4.2 SWB Safari Posts: 2,615	Guys it's right at the start of that paragraph "stricter limits for emissions from diesel cars with a diesel particulate filter (DPF)" - our trucks don't have DPFs so the new regs won't apply.

15-05-2018, 13:02	#6
zephyr Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: London Vehicle: 2001 TerranoII SE+ 2.7Tdi Posts: 154	Forgot to tell you for those who are in London. I was using Universal Tyres Greenwich branch who were very reasonable and there were bunch of friendly people. Sadly for some reason they decided to close this branch. So now I'm bringing my T2 to their Plaistow branch. I would've recommended this garage to anyone in London, however I will need to see if their Plaistow branch is also good as reviews at Google have fairly lower scores comparing to Greenwich branch. If you are in London and know any good garage who knows about Terrano, please let me know.