Front bulkhead leaks

johnb5177 · 25-02-2021, 14:53

Hi guys,
The perennial problem of water ingress to drivers side footwell......
I have sealed and taped the sunroof (daft idea cutting a hole in a good bit of steel!!) So it isn't the roof drains......
I have just removed the plastic trim beneath the windscreen, to reveal the metalwork panel.
On the passenger side there is is screwed panel covering the wiper linkages.....but not on the drivers side, although there are holes for poly fixings for self tappers etc.
Question is.....should there be a panel, if yes...should I cover it, and is it likely to be the source of water coming in.....
I'm not going to replace the trim straight away, as I'm having a new windscreen fitted next week as the present one has cracked from a previously treated chip repair......
All thought will be appreciated....
Thank you
JohnB

Fez_uk · 25-02-2021, 15:33

pretty sure there should be one on each side, But can't 100% remember.

johnb5177 · 25-02-2021, 18:59

Fez,
Thank you for that......anyone else that could confirm it please feel free......also if it should have said drivers side panel......does anyone here have one, with the polybushes/screws off a breaker???
If yes, costs please...
Thank you again..
J

solarman216 · 25-02-2021, 20:42

Yes there should be two access points both covered with a metal plate that needs to be water tight, had load in the past but doubt I have any now, but will look when I have time, Rick

Banshee · 25-02-2021, 21:20

There's a small write up on this topic with pictures in my project thread

johnb5177 · 25-02-2021, 22:44

Banshee,

Found it.......page 73, where you show both blanking plates.......clap

Now I just have to source one with all the bits.....

solarman216 · 25-02-2021, 23:31

You can keep the water out with a bit of plastic sheet and some gaffer tape, Rick

johnb5177 · 26-02-2021, 12:46

Thank you all for your thoughts.

I think it so unlikely that such a part will appear, that I've followed Rick's suggestion.

I have some spare black corrugated sheet (Correx) and cut a panel to fit, with judicious application of 'Gorilla' tape, it is now fixed.

This leaves the 2 square apertures in the centre part, which I assume allow for air intake for the ventilation/heater system?

JB

Banshee · 26-02-2021, 16:57

Just checked my stock and can only find 2 passengers side ones.

I'll can see if I can find a drivers side one if you'd prefer to do the job right?

micken · 26-02-2021, 22:54

Just a thought on this.

John5177 has a 3.0l SVE, is that what you other guys are talking about too? I seem to recall no driver side cover on my 3.0l SVE when I had the plastic panel off a year or so ago.

elty001 · 27-02-2021, 08:55

Will have a look at my 3.0ltr.
I know it's not fitted at the moment but will check if it has the plastic inserts for the screws.

johnb5177 · 27-02-2021, 17:27

Thanks for the ongoing debate on this one
.....it just seems odd to have one for passenger side and not drivers side, when the apertures for fixings etc are present.....
I've patched it over for the moment, but being a bit OCD like to do things correctly when I can....

Banshee · 27-02-2021, 18:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnb5177

Thanks for the ongoing debate on this one
.....it just seems odd to have one for passenger side and not drivers side, when the apertures for fixings etc are present.....
I've patched it over for the moment, but being a bit OCD like to do things correctly when I can....

They certainly exist, as you can see, I've found one and fitted it

elty001 · 28-02-2021, 17:24

Well it looks like the drivers side blanking plate is an optional extra.
No sign of one ever being fitted on my 3.0 ltr.
20210228_162112.jpg
One there on the passenger side though.

solarman216 · 01-03-2021, 12:39

No my Mrs 3Ltr does not have a plate either, Rick

25-02-2021, 14:53	#1
johnb5177 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Swansea, S.Wales Vehicle: 02Terrano II 3.0 SVE Auto Posts: 1,586	Front bulkhead leaks Hi guys, The perennial problem of water ingress to drivers side footwell...... I have sealed and taped the sunroof (daft idea cutting a hole in a good bit of steel!!) So it isn't the roof drains...... I have just removed the plastic trim beneath the windscreen, to reveal the metalwork panel. On the passenger side there is is screwed panel covering the wiper linkages.....but not on the drivers side, although there are holes for poly fixings for self tappers etc. Question is.....should there be a panel, if yes...should I cover it, and is it likely to be the source of water coming in..... I'm not going to replace the trim straight away, as I'm having a new windscreen fitted next week as the present one has cracked from a previously treated chip repair...... All thought will be appreciated.... Thank you JohnB

25-02-2021, 20:42	#4
solarman216 Off road maniac Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bexhill on Sea Vehicle: Y60 Patrol Me, 3 ltr Mrs Posts: 17,315	Yes there should be two access points both covered with a metal plate that needs to be water tight, had load in the past but doubt I have any now, but will look when I have time, Rick __________________ Ex banger racer now off road maniac Lokka on the front with manual hubs Diff lock on rear 3 inch SS straight through exhaust Manly winch bumper with 13000 lb winch 10 spike ground anchor, with multiple straps and blocks Super strong body cills capped with scaffold pole 20% stronger springs all round aggressive off road tyres on wheels so just swap. Aim to get stuck and be completely self sufficient in extraction, love getting muddy, 2ft deep is good but rare.

25-02-2021, 21:20	#5
Banshee Moderator Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: West Midlands Vehicle: 04 2.7 SWB Terrano II Van Posts: 13,525	There's a small write up on this topic with pictures in my project thread __________________ Moderator 04' Terrano II SE 2.7 TDi SWB Commercial in Silver - Project Thread Toyo Open Country M/T 33's on 10J Steels, Super Strong Steering Job Navara D22 Snorkel, Front LOKKA, Maunal Hubs, EGR Blank TunitII ECU Chip, 3" Body Lift, 2" Suss Lift, Heat Exchanger Black Interior, 3.0 Borg&Beck Clutch, Eckes Heated Fuel Filter 99' Y61 Patrol GR SE 2.8 TD6 LWB in Blue/Silver - Project Thread Engine Transplant - In Progress!!!

25-02-2021, 23:31	#7
solarman216 Off road maniac Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bexhill on Sea Vehicle: Y60 Patrol Me, 3 ltr Mrs Posts: 17,315	You can keep the water out with a bit of plastic sheet and some gaffer tape, Rick __________________ Ex banger racer now off road maniac Lokka on the front with manual hubs Diff lock on rear 3 inch SS straight through exhaust Manly winch bumper with 13000 lb winch 10 spike ground anchor, with multiple straps and blocks Super strong body cills capped with scaffold pole 20% stronger springs all round aggressive off road tyres on wheels so just swap. Aim to get stuck and be completely self sufficient in extraction, love getting muddy, 2ft deep is good but rare.

26-02-2021, 16:57	#9
Banshee Moderator Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: West Midlands Vehicle: 04 2.7 SWB Terrano II Van Posts: 13,525	Just checked my stock and can only find 2 passengers side ones. I'll can see if I can find a drivers side one if you'd prefer to do the job right? __________________ Moderator 04' Terrano II SE 2.7 TDi SWB Commercial in Silver - Project Thread Toyo Open Country M/T 33's on 10J Steels, Super Strong Steering Job Navara D22 Snorkel, Front LOKKA, Maunal Hubs, EGR Blank TunitII ECU Chip, 3" Body Lift, 2" Suss Lift, Heat Exchanger Black Interior, 3.0 Borg&Beck Clutch, Eckes Heated Fuel Filter 99' Y61 Patrol GR SE 2.8 TD6 LWB in Blue/Silver - Project Thread Engine Transplant - In Progress!!!

25-02-2021, 15:33	#2
Fez_uk Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Mid-Wales Vehicle: Maverick 2.7 - Patrol 4.2 Posts: 5,645	pretty sure there should be one on each side, But can't 100% remember.

25-02-2021, 18:59	#3
johnb5177 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Swansea, S.Wales Vehicle: 02Terrano II 3.0 SVE Auto Posts: 1,586	Fez, Thank you for that......anyone else that could confirm it please feel free......also if it should have said drivers side panel......does anyone here have one, with the polybushes/screws off a breaker??? If yes, costs please... Thank you again.. J

25-02-2021, 22:44	#6
johnb5177 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Swansea, S.Wales Vehicle: 02Terrano II 3.0 SVE Auto Posts: 1,586	Banshee, Found it.......page 73, where you show both blanking plates.......clap Now I just have to source one with all the bits.....

26-02-2021, 12:46	#8
johnb5177 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Swansea, S.Wales Vehicle: 02Terrano II 3.0 SVE Auto Posts: 1,586	Thank you all for your thoughts. I think it so unlikely that such a part will appear, that I've followed Rick's suggestion. I have some spare black corrugated sheet (Correx) and cut a panel to fit, with judicious application of 'Gorilla' tape, it is now fixed. This leaves the 2 square apertures in the centre part, which I assume allow for air intake for the ventilation/heater system? JB

26-02-2021, 22:54	#10
micken Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Yorkshire Vehicle: 04 Terrano 3l sve TD auto Posts: 158	Just a thought on this. John5177 has a 3.0l SVE, is that what you other guys are talking about too? I seem to recall no driver side cover on my 3.0l SVE when I had the plastic panel off a year or so ago.

27-02-2021, 08:55	#11
elty001 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Aflreton,Derbyshire. Vehicle: 2000se+ 2.7tdi terrano II Posts: 6,823	Will have a look at my 3.0ltr. I know it's not fitted at the moment but will check if it has the plastic inserts for the screws.

27-02-2021, 17:27	#12
johnb5177 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Swansea, S.Wales Vehicle: 02Terrano II 3.0 SVE Auto Posts: 1,586	Thanks for the ongoing debate on this one .....it just seems odd to have one for passenger side and not drivers side, when the apertures for fixings etc are present..... I've patched it over for the moment, but being a bit OCD like to do things correctly when I can....

28-02-2021, 17:24	#14
elty001 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Aflreton,Derbyshire. Vehicle: 2000se+ 2.7tdi terrano II Posts: 6,823	Well it looks like the drivers side blanking plate is an optional extra. No sign of one ever being fitted on my 3.0 ltr. 20210228_162112.jpg One there on the passenger side though.

01-03-2021, 12:39	#15
solarman216 Off road maniac Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bexhill on Sea Vehicle: Y60 Patrol Me, 3 ltr Mrs Posts: 17,315	No my Mrs 3Ltr does not have a plate either, Rick __________________ Ex banger racer now off road maniac Lokka on the front with manual hubs Diff lock on rear 3 inch SS straight through exhaust Manly winch bumper with 13000 lb winch 10 spike ground anchor, with multiple straps and blocks Super strong body cills capped with scaffold pole 20% stronger springs all round aggressive off road tyres on wheels so just swap. Aim to get stuck and be completely self sufficient in extraction, love getting muddy, 2ft deep is good but rare.

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