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Old 08-10-2007, 20:57   #31
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Default VEG OIL////heated fuel filter

HI.
can you remember me putting a post up regarding 6 x 25ltr veg oil cans left at side of a layby. some lorry had had its tank filled with the stuff.
my question is can we get hold of the stuff from( trade warehouses).
surly if we can get this it will be cheaper .

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heated fuel filter.
PLANK pointed this out to me at last years rally
my terrano has one in the top of the filter housing two cables come out of it. red and black.
has it been fitted to all of them?.
this should help to run veg oil through filter.
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Old 08-10-2007, 20:59   #32
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vegetable oil be it sunflower/rapeseed new or recycled has a nasty habit of cleaning your fuel tank out of any old muck you have in there right into your filters,it also has a tendency to attract water so if your motor starts to get sluggish its time to change that filter.Also after speaking to a customer i had a delivery to the other day you may have troubles with fuel lines starting to deteriorate internally ending up with fuel lines splitting,but for the price of a fuel filter and possibly new fuel lines its worth having a go at.
Most of that applies to used not SVO. The cookin process breaks the oils down into fatty acids which attack things.


As well as filtering the oil you need to remove the water content, to do this you need to bring it up to about 70 degrees C and then it will separate out.

Between the "drying", settling and filtering ect you'll have a lot of fuel "in process" at anyone time, you'll end up needing at least half a domestic garage put over to fuel production which is one of the reasons I didn't bother. The other is sourcing the used oil in the first place, problem is theres now a bit of competition for the stuff and chip shops etc want someone who will reliably take theres away everytime they have enough to get rid of, they don't want someone who just takes it when they want some, so the commercial bio-fuel producers are ok they can do that but the rest of us can't.

On another tack, it was a reasonably cold night last night round here and whilst the van started up ok it was a bit smokey but ran. I didn't have enough veg so was going to the gaage next door for some dino diesel. When I pulled up she wouldn't switch off. Turned and even removed the key and just kept running, I assume the thicker oil, especially as still cold was preventing the shut off valve from closing - something to think about.
Sounds likely, just stall it! I ran an old peugeot 305 with a knackered stop solenoid and had to stall it whenever I wanted to leave it anywhere!!
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Old 08-10-2007, 21:03   #33
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vegetable oil be it sunflower/rapeseed new or recycled has a nasty habit of cleaning your fuel tank out of any old muck you have in there right into your filters,it also has a tendency to attract water so if your motor starts to get sluggish its time to change that filter.Also after speaking to a customer i had a delivery to the other day you may have troubles with fuel lines starting to deteriorate internally ending up with fuel lines splitting,but for the price of a fuel filter and possibly new fuel lines its worth having a go at.
Most of that applies to used not SVO. The cookin process breaks the oils down into fatty acids which attack things.


As well as filtering the oil you need to remove the water content, to do this you need to bring it up to about 70 degrees C and then it will separate out.

Between the "drying", settling and filtering ect you'll have a lot of fuel "in process" at anyone time, you'll end up needing at least half a domestic garage put over to fuel production which is one of the reasons I didn't bother. The other is sourcing the used oil in the first place, problem is theres now a bit of competition for the stuff and chip shops etc want someone who will reliably take theres away everytime they have enough to get rid of, they don't want someone who just takes it when they want some, so the commercial bio-fuel producers are ok they can do that but the rest of us can't.

On another tack, it was a reasonably cold night last night round here and whilst the van started up ok it was a bit smokey but ran. I didn't have enough veg so was going to the gaage next door for some dino diesel. When I pulled up she wouldn't switch off. Turned and even removed the key and just kept running, I assume the thicker oil, especially as still cold was preventing the shut off valve from closing - something to think about.
Sounds likely, just stall it! I ran an old peugeot 305 with a knackered stop solenoid and had to stall it whenever I wanted to leave it anywhere!!
Knocked it off again on the M1 in queue and it worked fine then and for the rest of the day.
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Old 08-10-2007, 21:41   #34
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Been using oil from Asda for the last couple of weeks only thing I have found is that I get puffs of blue smoke when I fire her up.

Apart from that.. Kids chasing us up the street asking for CHIPS!! -rotfl-

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Paul, your suppose to put in your tank, not drink it : :

Anyway just to check somthing, if I get cooking oil from Aldi or Asda etc I mix it in my tank. I do not have to refine it or filter it or do anything to it only drink it......sorry.....put it my tank and run on it??????

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Old 08-10-2007, 21:57   #36
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new oils ok jims being tight again and thinking local chippy will love him if he takes old oil away,as with all these things get on bandwagon asap before everyone cottons on an asda bung prices up
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Paul, your suppose to put in your tank, not drink it : :

Anyway just to check somthing, if I get cooking oil from Aldi or Asda etc I mix it in my tank. I do not have to refine it or filter it or do anything to it only drink it......sorry.....put it my tank and run on it??????

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Thanks Pete!! -rotfl-

All I have been doing is throwing it in the tank in the carpark then driving home... Selling chips on the way!! :
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Apart from that.. Kids chasing us up the street asking for CHIPS!! -rotfl-
Sorry had a drink! ops:
Are you saying paul you've built the 1st maverick burger van -rotfl- -rotfl- In that case i'll have 3 cheese burgers & a portion of chips please with S&V -rotfl- -rotfl- Oh do you deliver :roll:

Sorry I had some of that funny pop aswell :roll: :roll: ops:
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Apart from that.. Kids chasing us up the street asking for CHIPS!! -rotfl-
Sorry had a drink! ops:
Are you saying paul you've built the 1st maverick burger van -rotfl- -rotfl- In that case i'll have 3 cheese burgers & a portion of chips please with S&V -rotfl- -rotfl- Oh do you deliver :roll:

Sorry I had some of that funny pop aswell :roll: :roll: ops:
Well we deliver : but it's 1 litre of cooking oil a mile.. :smile:
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rgds and two bergers pleasei.
DOES THIS MEEN WE GET ON SITE CATERING WHEN WE GO GREEN LANING WITH ANDY AKA CHIPANDISCO.
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rgds and two bergers pleasei.
DOES THIS MEEN WE GET ON SITE CATERING WHEN WE GO GREEN LANING WITH ANDY AKA CHIPANDISCO.
:P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P
If you order now it's going to get so cold by December!

But you will still owe us the oil!

Pete the way this is going we will not have to buy any fuel to get there and back! :
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i used to have a burgher van it was called "fb catering" sold it on ebay when girl who ran it had heart attack due to to many fags she still smokes like chimney madness! i used to get all oil an stuff from makro they do the 25l cans in all variations/flavours thatd give you 50/50 mix roughly in one go pump it in with water pump off caravan.
just watching news think veg oil is going to become very popluar!
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rgds and two bergers pleasei.
DOES THIS MEEN WE GET ON SITE CATERING WHEN WE GO GREEN LANING WITH ANDY AKA CHIPANDISCO.
:P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P
If you order now it's going to get so cold by December!

But you will still owe us the oil!

Pete the way this is going we will not have to buy any fuel to get there and back! :
Paul, How much are we charging for the green stuff (penicillin I think its called)
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http://greenfuels.co.uk/
http://www.refuelenergy.co.uk/
http://www.bioukfuels.co.uk/
http://www.bioenerg.co.uk/
http://www.bio-d.co.uk/
http://www.crownoil.co.uk/

just some biodiesel companys.. :?
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Think THIS is it but my version of Adobe reader has just packed up so can't check.
yes works fine, a bit terse though!

anyway, last night i put a litre of sunflower oil in our fridge the display is set at 3 degrees celcius, this morning it is still lovely and runny! however i find ordinary 'veg oil' (as opposed to sunflower) sets like lard at this temperature!
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