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Old 24-04-2019, 17:59   #1
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Question Cordless 1/2" Impact Wrenches

Thinking about getting a cordless impact wrench to assist me with removing wheel bolts in my old age.

There appears to be two different types of 1/2" fitting, Friction Ring or Indent Pin.
Any advice here on which one is better for this type of application?
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Old 24-04-2019, 19:40   #2
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ryobi do one 400 newtons seen in b&q around £100
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Old 24-04-2019, 20:03   #3
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Pin type is meant for use up high and prevents the socket from falling of in the event of a knock or something. Friction ring is for everyone else. I personally have the milwaukee one and it works great, though I use it daily. I'm sure a cheaper one would be perfect for home use. Always rated Makita drills though never had experience with an impact
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Have a mate who is a scaffolder, sure he has Makita, uses it all the time if you want details say and I will ask, personally I use a normal battery drill as I am constantly changing from off road to on road, I just crack them off and jack up and do the rest with the drill, finishing of with a torque wrench every time, Rick
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B&Q and Screwfix sell a brand is it eberspaucher or something. They now do a range of cordless tools that all take the same battery, buy the tool without battery sort of thing. Problem with a cordless tool is that unless the tool is used regularly the battery goes flat so a single tool only used occasionally risks a flat battery every time it’s needed.
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Depends on the quality, I last year purchased used De Walt 36 volt kit with 4 batteries 2 dated 2009 and 2 2014, all still going strong, the circular saw is just like a mains powered version, Rick
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B&Q and Screwfix sell a brand is it eberspaucher or something. They now do a range of cordless tools that all take the same battery, buy the tool without battery sort of thing. Problem with a cordless tool is that unless the tool is used regularly the battery goes flat so a single tool only used occasionally risks a flat battery every time it’s needed.
If it's Erbauer I had a corded hedge trimmer from Tesco it lasted less than two seasons before the blades just jammed on the thinest twig as the motor just gave up on power so I will avoid that one.

TBH the new Li-ion batteries seem pretty good, either way I am looking at slowly changing so all my power tools share the same battery fitting albeit at different Ah's.
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Pin type is meant for use up high and prevents the socket from falling of in the event of a knock or something. Friction ring is for everyone else. I personally have the milwaukee one and it works great, though I use it daily. I'm sure a cheaper one would be perfect for home use. Always rated Makita drills though never had experience with an impact
At present am looking at a Milwuakee as SGS Tools are based in Derby and do great prices, just not sure about the need to go for the high torque version I like the look of this one - it would be a one off purchase so would get the best I can afford.

https://www.sgs-engineering.com/m18f...ench-bare-unit
OR lower torque.

https://www.sgs-engineering.com/m18f...teries-charger

Might be an overkill GMC tools do some good priced stuff too.
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At present am looking at a Milwuakee as SGS Tools are based in Derby and do great prices, just not sure about the need to go for the high torque version I like the look of this one - it would be a one off purchase so would get the best I can afford.

https://www.sgs-engineering.com/m18f...ench-bare-unit
OR lower torque.

https://www.sgs-engineering.com/m18f...teries-charger

Might be an overkill GMC tools do some good priced stuff too.
Thats where I get my Milwaukee stuff too. Have a tool truck come round every 3 weeks and he does them but just cant compete on price with SGS. Saying that mine is the version one and Im pretty sure I paid around £300 with 2 batteries, the one you linked to is the bare tool. Having a quick looks it's seems the Mid tourqe is now the same as the old high tourqe that I have and it's never failed to undo a nut, it's even out performed my bosses Snap On one and at more than twice the price I was a little smug...
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Thumbs up Decided to be sensible and go for a somewhat cheaper one!

After much mulling it over as I am only going to use a Cordless Impact for wheel changes (mainly) decided to go for a cheaper option than the Milwaukee that in the end as a non professional user was an overkill.

Bought a £209.98 Kielder 700 NM 1/2" impact driver on e-bay with just the one battery a 4.0 Ah one made by Samsung. I like the tool holder that fits inside a spare wheel might be a Christmas present from me to me. Comes with a 3 year warranty.

https://www.kielder.co/
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After much mulling it over as I am only going to use a Cordless Impact for wheel changes (mainly) decided to go for a cheaper option than the Milwaukee that in the end as a non professional user was an overkill.

Bought a £209.98 Kielder 700 NM 1/2" impact driver on e-bay with just the one battery a 4.0 Ah one made by Samsung. I like the tool holder that fits inside a spare wheel might be a Christmas present from me to me. Comes with a 3 year warranty.

https://www.kielder.co/
You will have to let us know how you get on with it.

I bought a second hand Chicago Pneumatic air gun, but it was knackered, and would not even undo a stiff nut.

I then got a cheap Sealey one, from the Motor Factors, and it's a lot better, but it really does not cope with tight nuts, and I usually have to get the breaker bar out to loosen them first. Basically, it copes with anything up to about 75ft/lb, but tighter than that, and it just sits there knocking, but making no progress.

I have read of people using them to deliberately sheer off nuts on exhaust systems, but mine would never do that.
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I’ve got the dewalt one
Basically same as this it’s good for most things but I do find I need to get the big bar out for some things. However my mates got a Milwaukee one and it smokes everything not actually come across anything it won’t undo


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Old 30-04-2019, 10:24   #13
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I’ve got the dewalt one
Basically same as this it’s good for most things but I do find I need to get the big bar out for some things. However my mates got a Milwaukee one and it smokes everything not actually come across anything it won’t undo


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You are right the Milwaukee one is a brilliant specification but for me at £400 with batteries I just could not justify the outlay. Fifteen years ago when I did all my own suspension work it would have been a no brainer but I have to face up to the reality that age etc has got the better of me. I had a DeWalt drill some years ago and it was brilliant as was my old Makita.

I will be interested to see how the Kielder performs although for me wheel bolts it should not tax it any.
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machine mart also do the Kielder impact too and a range of various bare tool only options spare batteries etc
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Thumbs up The Kielder Impact Wrench has landed its TOOL TIME !

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Thanks, good to know as we have a local branch in Derby as well as SGS Engineering being on the ring road.

My Kielder Gadget arrived today - two days earlier than expected in a nice plastic type case with steel latches. Leaflet enclosed to say that whilst it is running in the maximum torque will not be reached until it has been used a few times.

First impression is it seems a well made bit of kit - heavier than I expected but it is quite compact & weighty - with a decent looking charger unit.

LED battery indicator with variable speed trigger action for Low & High Torque, defaults to High when in reverse, then remembers if you selected Low when going forwards again!

I will post again after it has done some work - well chuffed. The Gaffer made a remark to the effect that when she buys more shoes I should keep my trap shut. lol
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