Any ideas?

dennisgraham · 12-06-2011, 11:31

Hi, have just joined, mainly to get advice on my maverick, took it for a full valet on friday, went to collect, flat battery and would not start, AA called, jump start, no go, tow start, no go, he thinks starter motor, or perhaps far more sinister, am now very worried. Any advice?

cncfabs · 12-06-2011, 11:51

Doesnt sound like starter motor what engine is it td tdi or petrol

Timbo_1975 · 12-06-2011, 11:52

Battery leads are famous for looking ok, but being electrically insulating! Give them both a good look and tug.

dennisgraham · 12-06-2011, 11:58

turbo diesel, AA patrol said when towed, and put into gear, could not feel any resistance? like there was no compression?

dennisgraham · 12-06-2011, 11:59

AA tried new battery, and at one point, got a puff of smoke from starter motor

clivvy · 12-06-2011, 13:44

check ignition switch. what did these valeters do, did they clean the engine bay?? if so, how?

check the positive wire and clamp all the way to solenoid too.

supergnome · 12-06-2011, 15:19

What's a valeter? My trucks not got one.

Seriously.... working going in, paid money, problem is the valeters, not yours I think. Take legal advice.

clivvy · 12-06-2011, 15:58

if they have steam cleaned your engine, this is bad. if they used pressure systems, then they may have forced moisture into the cylinders. BUT, could easily just be ignition switch, a connection that has been knocked and so on, its all down to what they did to valet you rcar.

makeitfit · 12-06-2011, 16:16

Serves you right for having a vallet

as my son would say, GAAAAY

As far as not starting, then as stated above but if not started with a tow then I'd be worried too

It could be clutch related possibly, or maybe a soaked MAF.
Have you now got a good battery , charged the old one and checked cabling etc?

jims-terrano · 12-06-2011, 20:59

Open the air filter housing and make sure the filter is dry. If it's wet youmay of had water sucked it to engine which aint good at all.

Jim

briggie · 12-06-2011, 21:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by jims-terrano

Open the air filter housing and make sure the filter is dry. If it's wet youmay of had water sucked it to engine which aint good at all.

Jim

nope , no good at all .... water does not compress inside a cylinder ...... something has to give way

dan · 12-06-2011, 21:21

If steamed, you probably have water in the electrics - never heard of any getting into the engines themselves before...and I have owned 3 valeting companies before over the years.

Often, it will get into the electrics - ecu's (though the terrano should be inside) and other places such as fuse boxes etc. Check fusible link as well. Undo all your connectors, and blow out with an air-line, them give a spray of weasel or similar to dry out.

If it isn't an easy job - I would be asking for the valeters liability insurance details. I had a kid do this to a cherokee once, that cost a few grand in work.

cleangreenm/c · 12-06-2011, 22:53

check earth cable where it joins to the body /chassis. have seen many people buy new batt only to find e/cable us .AND DONT tow start.Roy

makeitfit · 12-06-2011, 23:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by cleangreenm/c

.AND DONT tow start.Roy

Why not ?

R1cho · 12-06-2011, 23:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by makeitfit

Why not ?

puts stress on the gears especially if cold

12-06-2011, 11:31	#1
dennisgraham Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Yorkshire Vehicle: Maverick aspen swb Posts: 21	Any ideas? Hi, have just joined, mainly to get advice on my maverick, took it for a full valet on friday, went to collect, flat battery and would not start, AA called, jump start, no go, tow start, no go, he thinks starter motor, or perhaps far more sinister, am now very worried. Any advice? Last edited by dennisgraham; 12-06-2011 at 11:39. Reason: looks better

12-06-2011, 22:53	#13
cleangreenm/c Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: scotland Vehicle: NISSAN TERRANO 2004 2.7TD Posts: 122	non start check earth cable where it joins to the body /chassis. have seen many people buy new batt only to find e/cable us .AND DONT tow start.Roy

12-06-2011, 11:51	#2
cncfabs Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: somerset Vehicle: terrano Posts: 1,947	Doesnt sound like starter motor what engine is it td tdi or petrol

12-06-2011, 11:52	#3
Timbo_1975 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: S Shropshire Vehicle: Inbetween Terrano's ! Posts: 967	Battery leads are famous for looking ok, but being electrically insulating! Give them both a good look and tug.

12-06-2011, 11:58	#4
dennisgraham Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Yorkshire Vehicle: Maverick aspen swb Posts: 21	turbo diesel, AA patrol said when towed, and put into gear, could not feel any resistance? like there was no compression?

12-06-2011, 11:59	#5
dennisgraham Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Yorkshire Vehicle: Maverick aspen swb Posts: 21	AA tried new battery, and at one point, got a puff of smoke from starter motor

12-06-2011, 13:44	#6
clivvy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Huddersfield Vehicle: Terrano 03 LWB Posts: 6,947	check ignition switch. what did these valeters do, did they clean the engine bay?? if so, how? check the positive wire and clamp all the way to solenoid too.

12-06-2011, 15:19	#7
supergnome Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Isle of Axholme Vehicle: T2, 2.7 TDI 2002 lwb Posts: 955	What's a valeter? My trucks not got one. Seriously.... working going in, paid money, problem is the valeters, not yours I think. Take legal advice.

12-06-2011, 15:58	#8
clivvy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Huddersfield Vehicle: Terrano 03 LWB Posts: 6,947	if they have steam cleaned your engine, this is bad. if they used pressure systems, then they may have forced moisture into the cylinders. BUT, could easily just be ignition switch, a connection that has been knocked and so on, its all down to what they did to valet you rcar.

12-06-2011, 16:16	#9
makeitfit Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: on the beach WEST WALES Vehicle: Maverick TDi BLACK mmm Posts: 15,136	Serves you right for having a vallet as my son would say, GAAAAY As far as not starting, then as stated above but if not started with a tow then I'd be worried too It could be clutch related possibly, or maybe a soaked MAF. Have you now got a good battery , charged the old one and checked cabling etc?

12-06-2011, 20:59	#10
jims-terrano Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: UK Posts: 12,965	Open the air filter housing and make sure the filter is dry. If it's wet youmay of had water sucked it to engine which aint good at all. Jim

12-06-2011, 21:21	#12
dan Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: cornwall Vehicle: Terrano Commercial Posts: 81	If steamed, you probably have water in the electrics - never heard of any getting into the engines themselves before...and I have owned 3 valeting companies before over the years. Often, it will get into the electrics - ecu's (though the terrano should be inside) and other places such as fuse boxes etc. Check fusible link as well. Undo all your connectors, and blow out with an air-line, them give a spray of weasel or similar to dry out. If it isn't an easy job - I would be asking for the valeters liability insurance details. I had a kid do this to a cherokee once, that cost a few grand in work.