Today's Daydream -Jeep Succession Planning

[Mr K]

Just out of interest, I know the patrols swapped over to common rail but was the 3.0 Terrano common rail or pre?

[solarman216]

Originally Posted by Mr K

Just out of interest, I know the patrols swapped over to common rail but was the 3.0 Terrano common rail or pre?

No the three is not common rail, Rick

[Mr K]

That's got to be good news

[Terrano Steve]

Originally Posted by terranosaurusdoug

Throw him out Banshee

At least I didn't mention the other L word.

[bbbmmm55]

Originally Posted by Banshee

Isn't that engine the one that the veggy guys over at vegetableoildiesel.com love? I know a lot of guys over there that single tank the Rextons!!!

The 2.9 is the one you want for veg. Same engine as old sprinters, has a mechanical pump. Think its Rexton up to 2004.

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

Originally Posted by macabethiel

Yep its the same 5 Cylinder engine 2.7 Turbo Diesel as in the W163 ML. This engine is also used in some older Ssangyong Rexton models.

The 2.7 engine was a bored out version of the earlier 2.5 that they built for yonks and put in the old C Class. The engine is pretty reliable being a chain driven camshaft as are all UK market Mercs.

Trouble with the W163 was inconsistent US build quality, poor ride and lack of steering feel plus daft things like if the angle sensor fails you have to replace the whole steering column think £1,000 ish for the part! On later W164 it is a replaceable sensor costing less than £100.

Later Jeep Grand Cherokee has the 3 litre V6 Mercedes Diesel unit until the Mercedes engine supply deal finished after MB offloaded Chrysler-Jeep.

a neighbour has the jeep commander with the 3.0 v6 td, i'm considering it in distant future, the idea of a yank yacht appeals even with merc hardware. also thought of pathfinder but seems they have been known to suffer the same chassis issues as the
navaras. also a late y61 trol.

[Banshee]

Originally Posted by terranosaurusdoug

Throw him out Banshee

[macabethiel]

Originally Posted by Thomas-the-Terrano2

a neighbour has the jeep commander with the 3.0 v6 td, i'm considering it in distant future, the idea of a yank yacht appeals even with merc hardware. also thought of pathfinder but seems they have been known to suffer the same chassis issues as the
navaras. also a late y61 trol.

I like the Commander as well they are not stupid money either but suspension parts etc might be pricey as there is not the same range of aftermarket spares available. I guess they are a bit thirsty due to the size & weight.

The likes of Blueprint & others make a lot of WJ, WK spares, many engine / gearbox components are MB sourced designs until you get to the newer models.

UK RHD WJ series is built in Austria and some in South Africa for other RHD markets.

Most people think that Mercededs models such as the popular C class are built in Germany but are in fact built in South Africa as well as the Ml /GLE being built in the USA. Not sure where the Commander is built. Interestingly MB brochures refer to German Engineering and carefully avoid build information.

[Mr K]

Anyone ever had the older XJ Jeep Cherokee?

Some of the older 4x4's look cool and with a 4.0 v6 I think petrol, will sound and drive nice aswell.

Don't know if they are any good though?

[macabethiel]

Originally Posted by Mr K

Anyone ever had the older XJ Jeep Cherokee?

Some of the older 4x4's look cool and with a 4.0 v6 I think petrol, will sound and drive nice aswell.

Don't know if they are any good though?

Not sure but think they are a straight six - a strong engine by all accounts.

[terranosaurusdoug]

Yes 4.0 straight six, very good engine and vehicles, good off-road too, and comfy, going up in value now too

[jonny]

I've had a few xj's both petrol and diesel. 4.0ltr is a straight 6, great engine but obviously a bit thirsty. Diesel is a good engine if looked after. They are brilliant off road, bit of a lift and some decent tyres and sorted for pretty much all UK lanes. I would have another anytime but rust is an issue, especially with the earlier ones.

[Mr K]

Thanks guys, that's good feed back.

Is there anywhere in particular they tend to rust out first, like back end of the chassis on a disco 2, or wings on the Nissan for example?

What's best to look for when buying?

There is one quite close to me and I could go have a look.

[jonny]

I would give an XJ a good look all over. They aren't a separate chassis so no worries with that. I think the later ones, '97 onwards (but don't quote me on that) are galvanised and less prone to rust. All of the ones i have had have been rust free. The petrol motor is bullet proof. The diesel is a 2.5 turbo.It's the VM engine thats fitted in quite a few cars, P38 Range Rover, one of the Frontera's and more. Great engine if it has been looked after, otherwise prone to head gasket failure. There is a less popular 2.5 petrol. Don't bother with one of those, even if you find one cheap. Just as expensive to run as the 4.0ltr and way too under powered.

They are brilliant off road, equal to a Land Rover any time. Then again they are the ones Land Rover copied so should be..

I would say, if you find a good one snap it up. They seem to be going up in value as well, the days of a great one for £600 seem to have gone, unless you are lucky.


a few of my old ones









Top one is a diesel, the others petrol. I never had a problem with any of them.

[terranosaurusdoug]

I remember when I worked for a used car dealership years ago, we did not even want them in part ex because we couldn't shift them, wish I had one now though, I've always liked them, good interiors