New rear bumper - Page 2

makeitfit · 22-05-2014, 10:47

I'd cut back the over rider bit so it's narrower. then move the lights outward. that'll let you mount the main bar higher so it looks better just under the door line. Even more clearance then and it'll look like it's meant to be there

The grommets should easily be found in a scrap yard

Barrbeast · 22-05-2014, 14:03

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Originally Posted by AlexD333

I've just had a "great" though

Im gonna get the exact definition of "winch" and see what I can get away with.

Example - if I could just have 1m of cable with a hook sitting on the ring id be laughing.

Don't really wanna buy a 300 quid elec winch.

My understanding is that in a winch bumper the winch bit is integral/mounted to the bumper, so either incorporating the cradle or at the very least the fairlead.

A winch is a winch bud, I don't think there's any ambiguity there that you could use and even if there was do you want to be trying to argue it in the case of an accident? Also remember you need to inform your insurance about the change of bumper's rear and front.

Fez_uk · 22-05-2014, 14:09

Sell the tirfor and buy a electric winch

Barrbeast · 22-05-2014, 14:21

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Originally Posted by Fez_uk

Sell the tirfor and buy a electric winch

AlexD333 · 22-05-2014, 14:40

Nah, that Tirfor winch is a bad boy! Rick was checking it out yesterday and he was impressed with it.

I'm wondering if I put a cable in the front for "winching" if it would count

AlexD333 · 22-05-2014, 14:40

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Originally Posted by makeitfit

I'd cut back the over rider bit so it's narrower. then move the lights outward. that'll let you mount the main bar higher so it looks better just under the door line. Even more clearance then and it'll look like it's meant to be there

The grommets should easily be found in a scrap yard

Would you believe the rear door only just opens!! So no more lifting there. Are you on about cutting the corners off?

Barrbeast · 22-05-2014, 14:59

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Originally Posted by AlexD333

Nah, that Tirfor winch is a bad boy! Rick was checking it out yesterday and he was impressed with it.

I'm wondering if I put a cable in the front for "winching" if it would count

:rolleyes :Bud that's pretty much no different from having a cable on a front recovery point - a winch bumper has a winch, it's in the name!

AlexD333 · 22-05-2014, 15:06

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Originally Posted by Barrbeast

:rolleyes :Bud that's pretty much no different from having a cable on a front recovery point - a winch bumper has a winch, it's in the name!

Hey I gotta try right

Barrbeast · 22-05-2014, 17:12

Remember bud your talking about making your vehicle non-road legal in the eyes of the law.

Even if you don't get stopped think of what would happen if you had an accident as I bet your insurance company would wash their hands and so you'd have no insurance never mind anything else

Up to you at the end of the day but I wouldn't be risking it

AlexD333 · 22-05-2014, 20:46

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Originally Posted by Barrbeast

Remember bud your talking about making your vehicle non-road legal in the eyes of the law.

Even if you don't get stopped think of what would happen if you had an accident as I bet your insurance company would wash their hands and so you'd have no insurance never mind anything else

Up to you at the end of the day but I wouldn't be risking it

Right, cleared this up, spoke to the insurance company as a "maybe" question

He could not answer me so spoke to underwriter, who also had no idea. They said they would call me back. 4 hours later they call, and gave me the good news

I explained in detail what the bumpers were, I made the joke and said as I work in the trade I wouldn't claim anyway, he uh. Made a good joke back and said "well I think the other car would get written off anyway"

I told them to consider them fitted as I'm gonna do it ASAP

Also got call recorded

Sweety · 22-05-2014, 20:56

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Originally Posted by AlexD333

Right, cleared this up, spoke to the insurance company as a "maybe" question

He could not answer me so spoke to underwriter, who also had no idea. They said they would call me back. 4 hours later they call, and gave me the good news

I explained in detail what the bumpers were, I made the joke and said as I work in the trade I wouldn't claim anyway, he uh. Made a good joke back and said "well I think the other car would get written off anyway"

I told them to consider them fitted as I'm gonna do it ASAP

Also got call recorded

Well if your underwriter is happy for them to be fitted then all is good

With your rear bumper you might be able to trim off the top part of the old bumper to use as an infill above the steel bumper if you wanted a bit more of a factory look to the rear corners

AlexD333 · 22-05-2014, 21:00

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Originally Posted by Sweety

Well if your underwriter is happy for them to be fitted then all is good

With your rear bumper you might be able to trim off the top part of the old bumper to use as an infill above the steel bumper if you wanted a bit more of a factory look to the rear corners

I must admit the look has grown on me, at first i thought, hmmm looks pretty extreme and a little strange but ive gotta admit I love it

Barrbeast · 22-05-2014, 21:40

Alex bud just 'cos they work for the insurance company doesn't mean they can give you an all clear as far as the law is concerned

or that the insurance company will definitely pay out if your vehicle is found to be non road legal.

There's plenty info on the net about it so I'm not gonna say any more I just hope you don't have to put that recorded phonecall to the test for the sake of buying a cheap winch to stick on the bumper (nobody said you had to use it).

AlexD333 · 22-05-2014, 22:41

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Originally Posted by Barrbeast

Alex bud just 'cos they work for the insurance company doesn't mean they can give you an all clear as far as the law is concerned

or that the insurance company will definitely pay out if your vehicle is found to be non road legal.

There's plenty info on the net about it so I'm not gonna say any more I just hope you don't have to put that recorded phonecall to the test for the sake of buying a cheap winch to stick on the bumper (nobody said you had to use it).

I think unfortunately that's what I'm gonna have to do. Even if its a crappy hand wind winch

Obviously hidden behind the bumper

Barrbeast · 23-05-2014, 07:56

behind/back of the bumper is the best place for them anyway just mind a slot for a fairlead of some sort so it at least looks usable.

22-05-2014, 10:47	#16
makeitfit Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: on the beach WEST WALES Vehicle: Maverick TDi BLACK mmm Posts: 15,136	I'd cut back the over rider bit so it's narrower. then move the lights outward. that'll let you mount the main bar higher so it looks better just under the door line. Even more clearance then and it'll look like it's meant to be there The grommets should easily be found in a scrap yard

22-05-2014, 14:09	#18
Fez_uk Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Mid-Wales Vehicle: Maverick 2.7 - Patrol 4.2 Posts: 5,645	Sell the tirfor and buy a electric winch

22-05-2014, 14:40	#20
AlexD333 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Uk Vehicle: 2004 Terrano 2.7 TDI Posts: 7,847	Nah, that Tirfor winch is a bad boy! Rick was checking it out yesterday and he was impressed with it. I'm wondering if I put a cable in the front for "winching" if it would count

22-05-2014, 17:12	#24
Barrbeast Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Dundee, Scotland Vehicle: 1990 4.2 SWB Safari Posts: 2,615	Remember bud your talking about making your vehicle non-road legal in the eyes of the law. Even if you don't get stopped think of what would happen if you had an accident as I bet your insurance company would wash their hands and so you'd have no insurance never mind anything else Up to you at the end of the day but I wouldn't be risking it

22-05-2014, 21:40	#28
Barrbeast Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Dundee, Scotland Vehicle: 1990 4.2 SWB Safari Posts: 2,615	Alex bud just 'cos they work for the insurance company doesn't mean they can give you an all clear as far as the law is concerned or that the insurance company will definitely pay out if your vehicle is found to be non road legal. There's plenty info on the net about it so I'm not gonna say any more I just hope you don't have to put that recorded phonecall to the test for the sake of buying a cheap winch to stick on the bumper (nobody said you had to use it).

23-05-2014, 07:56	#30
Barrbeast Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Dundee, Scotland Vehicle: 1990 4.2 SWB Safari Posts: 2,615	behind/back of the bumper is the best place for them anyway just mind a slot for a fairlead of some sort so it at least looks usable.