Need to Sell the Terrano now - Page 3

AlexD333 · 20-08-2014, 19:31

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Originally Posted by jims-terrano

Personally I would simply explain that you have been in touch with Trading Standards and taken advice. Be polite but firm say that you have no responsibility and you have no obligation to give a refund in part or full and such will not be doing so. Refer him back to the original advert but do not give him a copy. Do not say "sorry" or give any kind of refund as this maybe looked upon as admitting liability. A straight no is the way to go.

Awesome, I like

clivvy · 20-08-2014, 20:06

well, I agree with others, tell him to stick it. Cheeky arsehole, who does he think he is? his MOT mate has told him a ton of crap just because he doesn't want he car any more. Personally I'd tell him you'll buy it back off him for £400 since he has had two weeks to mess about with it.

Totally unreasonable, and he is acting like you are a trader, which you are not. If it were me, I'd accept it and move on. Its his OWN fault, not yours, this is just an example of the blame culture in this country, and he is simply trying it on, and how dare he use his wife as an excuse? He is in fantasy land also, so his mind has run away with him.

Tell him to get stuffed. Your MOT'r will be fine - this guy has no cause to contact Trading Standards about it, only you.

the idiot

AlexD333 · 20-08-2014, 20:25

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Originally Posted by clivvy

well, I agree with others, tell him to stick it. Cheeky arsehole, who does he think he is? his MOT mate has told him a ton of crap just because he doesn't want he car any more. Personally I'd tell him you'll buy it back off him for £400 since he has had two weeks to mess about with it.

Totally unreasonable, and he is acting like you are a trader, which you are not. If it were me, I'd accept it and move on. Its his OWN fault, not yours, this is just an example of the blame culture in this country, and he is simply trying it on, and how dare he use his wife as an excuse? He is in fantasy land also, so his mind has run away with him.

Tell him to get stuffed. Your MOT'r will be fine - this guy has no cause to contact Trading Standards about it, only you.

the idiot

I like this even more! And if this doesent work out ive got one more idea

solarman216 · 20-08-2014, 20:41

He is totally out of order, and to my mind a scammer, let him go to trading standards you are a private individual not a trader, you sold it in good faith the fact the engine management light has come up is of no consequence, a component related to this can fail at any time, not your problem, as for the MOT it is only a guide to the vehicles road worthiness on the day, and from what I can see you informed him of all issues known to you, now he is complaining, but not from his own knowledge, but that of a garage that clearly does not know what it is talking about, tell him to go away happy, if you get my meaning, Rick

brettgilbert77 · 27-08-2014, 16:54

Well, I've done it now.

Got the car back from him and can't get above 30 mph without a downhill stretch and a long straight run. Engine management light is on.

The chap who wanted to give me £500 won't answer the phone, email or texts so pretty certain he's decided not to bother. A tad rude not to at least say he's changed his mind, but there you go.

Actually agreed to use it in PX with cash on a new car for the missus, a Panda 4x4, but she didn't like the test drive.

Drove away and the offside wiper stopped working. Have had to park up and leave it where it is until the rain stops.

Think I might keep it now as a project, get these few issues resolved and have it as a toy.

Need to replace rear propshaft UJ, windscreen wiper motor and MAF asap, anyone local got a MAF going cheap or that I can use to test it?

bry · 27-08-2014, 19:23

Must be someone close by,that will help..

supergnome · 27-08-2014, 19:50

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Originally Posted by bry

Must be someone close by,that will help..

LOOK in the mirror. You've had good advice and failed to take it. Sell it for scrap.
Sorry to be so brutal but you need a quick solution for your peace of mind. David.

Sweety · 27-08-2014, 19:58

I would read the fault codes before fitting a new MAF as that might not be the problem

the MAF on my last T2 was totally dead but it never brought up the MIL light

dave123 · 27-08-2014, 20:05

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Originally Posted by brettgilbert77

Well, I've done it now.

Got the car back from him and can't get above 30 mph without a downhill stretch and a long straight run. Engine management light is on.

The chap who wanted to give me £500 won't answer the phone, email or texts so pretty certain he's decided not to bother. A tad rude not to at least say he's changed his mind, but there you go.

Actually agreed to use it in PX with cash on a new car for the missus, a Panda 4x4, but she didn't like the test drive.

Drove away and the offside wiper stopped working. Have had to park up and leave it where it is until the rain stops.

Think I might keep it now as a project, get these few issues resolved and have it as a toy.

Need to replace rear propshaft UJ, windscreen wiper motor and MAF asap, anyone local got a MAF going cheap or that I can use to test it?

how do you know it wasn't a con to change parts from yours to another one . all the parts are easy to change over and then complain saying you sold a dud and wants his money back. saves him buying new parts ?

jims-terrano · 27-08-2014, 20:17

So who was it that was lined up to buy it? Is it possible that was part of a scam?

Whats happened has happened and theres no point dwelling on the rights and wrongs. You need to move forward. Certainly the easiest way is to flog it for scrap and then there is no come back at all. You wont sell for a good price now what ever happens.

Read the fault codes and see what they say?

Did both wipers stop working or just the os? If so forget about the motor it'll probably be a linkage that has dropped off for some reason. Are you sure that a rear propshaft uj has gone? Cheap enough to buy new uj from Milners.

Good luck

brettgilbert77 · 27-08-2014, 21:47

Well,

I wouldn't have thought the buyer I had lined up was any part of the scam as he came via here. It's a friend of Madmark called Ed.
I spoke to Ed White prior to agreeing to take back the terrano and he was absolutely keen. We went through everything I knew (and have now been told) is wrong with it and he was still keen, otherwise I would've gone back to the buyer and told him to stick it.

My main reservation about doing so was that the MoT tester could well have some busy body crawling over his workshop and that might upset him when I need future work doing.

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Originally Posted by Madmark

If buy some means you end up with it back I text you about it on gumtree and my mate is ready to come down and buy it for £500 bud my mobile is 07769154840

I tried contacting Ed once I collected it and nothing. No reply to emails, texts and voice mails with the phone going straight to answer phone. I contacted Madmark and he suggested Ed's got something else so to put it on eBay.

I have read engine codes and I have 12 - MAF, 34 - Needle lift sensor and 47 - Crank Position sensor

Prior to selling the car I had no fault codes, so it may well be that the chap has swapped these out. Should that be the case I'll have a good look at the area to see if there's any evidence of tampering/removal. If I feel he's swapped out components I'll contact the police and report him. It seems unlikely all these components would fail at the same time.

jims-terrano · 27-08-2014, 21:58

Ahh well sounds like the buyer has got something else so just move on then I guess.

Well you should be able to see if those parts have been tampered with. Im sure there was a member on here that found a cheap alternative for the ckp sensor. The lift sensor is usually number 1 injector I think and is an expensive part. You could simply spray some contact cleaner on the maf before replacing the whole item.

Best of luck

AlexD333 · 27-08-2014, 21:58

I hate to say it...

brettgilbert77 · 27-08-2014, 22:07

I'll be having a very close look tomorrow at those parts. A MAF is only £20 or so, UJ £25ish. But then if I can see he's swapped them out I'll not contact him, I'll just turn up at his house with the police and have him arrested for fraud, no skin off my nose.
Would've been happy to have had the car back if it was just the fault's he'd mentioned, but if he's scamming me he'll soon be very sorry.

solarman216 · 27-08-2014, 22:41

if you can get a maf for £20 please do not bother, it will be rubbish, the cheapest reliable one will be £70 plus and not Nissan badged, if you want the info I will have to look it up but it has been on here so a search may sort it, Rick

20-08-2014, 20:41	#34
solarman216 Off road maniac Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bexhill on Sea Vehicle: Y60 Patrol Me, 3 ltr Mrs Posts: 17,323	He is totally out of order, and to my mind a scammer, let him go to trading standards you are a private individual not a trader, you sold it in good faith the fact the engine management light has come up is of no consequence, a component related to this can fail at any time, not your problem, as for the MOT it is only a guide to the vehicles road worthiness on the day, and from what I can see you informed him of all issues known to you, now he is complaining, but not from his own knowledge, but that of a garage that clearly does not know what it is talking about, tell him to go away happy, if you get my meaning, Rick __________________ Ex banger racer now off road maniac Lokka on the front with manual hubs Diff lock on rear 3 inch SS straight through exhaust Manly winch bumper with 13000 lb winch 10 spike ground anchor, with multiple straps and blocks Super strong body cills capped with scaffold pole 20% stronger springs all round aggressive off road tyres on wheels so just swap. Aim to get stuck and be completely self sufficient in extraction, love getting muddy, 2ft deep is good but rare.

27-08-2014, 22:41	#45
solarman216 Off road maniac Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bexhill on Sea Vehicle: Y60 Patrol Me, 3 ltr Mrs Posts: 17,323	if you can get a maf for £20 please do not bother, it will be rubbish, the cheapest reliable one will be £70 plus and not Nissan badged, if you want the info I will have to look it up but it has been on here so a search may sort it, Rick __________________ Ex banger racer now off road maniac Lokka on the front with manual hubs Diff lock on rear 3 inch SS straight through exhaust Manly winch bumper with 13000 lb winch 10 spike ground anchor, with multiple straps and blocks Super strong body cills capped with scaffold pole 20% stronger springs all round aggressive off road tyres on wheels so just swap. Aim to get stuck and be completely self sufficient in extraction, love getting muddy, 2ft deep is good but rare.

20-08-2014, 20:06	#32
clivvy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Huddersfield Vehicle: Terrano 03 LWB Posts: 6,947	well, I agree with others, tell him to stick it. Cheeky arsehole, who does he think he is? his MOT mate has told him a ton of crap just because he doesn't want he car any more. Personally I'd tell him you'll buy it back off him for £400 since he has had two weeks to mess about with it. Totally unreasonable, and he is acting like you are a trader, which you are not. If it were me, I'd accept it and move on. Its his OWN fault, not yours, this is just an example of the blame culture in this country, and he is simply trying it on, and how dare he use his wife as an excuse? He is in fantasy land also, so his mind has run away with him. Tell him to get stuffed. Your MOT'r will be fine - this guy has no cause to contact Trading Standards about it, only you. the idiot

27-08-2014, 16:54	#35
brettgilbert77 Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Bristol Vehicle: Nissan Terrano II 2.7 TDi Posts: 97	Well, I've done it now. Got the car back from him and can't get above 30 mph without a downhill stretch and a long straight run. Engine management light is on. The chap who wanted to give me £500 won't answer the phone, email or texts so pretty certain he's decided not to bother. A tad rude not to at least say he's changed his mind, but there you go. Actually agreed to use it in PX with cash on a new car for the missus, a Panda 4x4, but she didn't like the test drive. Drove away and the offside wiper stopped working. Have had to park up and leave it where it is until the rain stops. Think I might keep it now as a project, get these few issues resolved and have it as a toy. Need to replace rear propshaft UJ, windscreen wiper motor and MAF asap, anyone local got a MAF going cheap or that I can use to test it?

27-08-2014, 19:23	#36
bry Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: South Yorkshire.. Vehicle: Nissan Terrano MK 2 SE Posts: 1,757	Must be someone close by,that will help..

27-08-2014, 19:58	#38
Sweety Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Northumberland Vehicle: Terrano 2.7TDI SE LWB Posts: 3,604	I would read the fault codes before fitting a new MAF as that might not be the problem the MAF on my last T2 was totally dead but it never brought up the MIL light

27-08-2014, 20:17	#40
jims-terrano Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: UK Posts: 12,965	So who was it that was lined up to buy it? Is it possible that was part of a scam? Whats happened has happened and theres no point dwelling on the rights and wrongs. You need to move forward. Certainly the easiest way is to flog it for scrap and then there is no come back at all. You wont sell for a good price now what ever happens. Read the fault codes and see what they say? Did both wipers stop working or just the os? If so forget about the motor it'll probably be a linkage that has dropped off for some reason. Are you sure that a rear propshaft uj has gone? Cheap enough to buy new uj from Milners. Good luck

27-08-2014, 21:58	#42
jims-terrano Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: UK Posts: 12,965	Ahh well sounds like the buyer has got something else so just move on then I guess. Well you should be able to see if those parts have been tampered with. Im sure there was a member on here that found a cheap alternative for the ckp sensor. The lift sensor is usually number 1 injector I think and is an expensive part. You could simply spray some contact cleaner on the maf before replacing the whole item. Best of luck

27-08-2014, 21:58	#43
AlexD333 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Uk Vehicle: 2004 Terrano 2.7 TDI Posts: 7,847	I hate to say it...

27-08-2014, 22:07	#44
brettgilbert77 Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Bristol Vehicle: Nissan Terrano II 2.7 TDi Posts: 97	I'll be having a very close look tomorrow at those parts. A MAF is only £20 or so, UJ £25ish. But then if I can see he's swapped them out I'll not contact him, I'll just turn up at his house with the police and have him arrested for fraud, no skin off my nose. Would've been happy to have had the car back if it was just the fault's he'd mentioned, but if he's scamming me he'll soon be very sorry.