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drumbum1 11-03-2019 20:08

towing a terano
 
was hoping someone can help me i am hoping to pick up a terano over the weekend unfortunately it hasnt got any mot, i can borow an a frame but can i tow it home or will it damage the 4x4 system

Lazy-Ferret 11-03-2019 20:15

You can put the transfer box into neutral, which then disconnects everything.

Depending on the age, and mods, you may also have manual front hubs, which to can switch off, so then it will only be the rear wheels driving the prop shaft up to the transfer box, but it is fine to tow even if you have fixed or auto hubs.

jims-terrano 11-03-2019 20:19

Might be easier to higher a trailer, i towed a terrano lwb on a trailer with another terrano lwb. Might be easier and safer but up to you.

solarman216 11-03-2019 20:54

Correct me if I am wrong peeps, but I thought that if it has any wheels on the ground then it has to be insured, taxed and tested, even if being towed, Rick

macabethiel 11-03-2019 22:34

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Originally Posted by solarman216 (Post 361348)
Correct me if I am wrong peeps, but I thought that if it has any wheels on the ground then it has to be insured, taxed and tested, even if being towed, Rick

You are right Rick as it is still classed as a mechanically propelled vehicle even if the engine is a non runner.

Trailer is the only legal way, there are quite a few firms who transport vehicles some are quite reasonable depending on the distance involved. A lot of motor traders use such firms.

Lazy-Ferret 11-03-2019 23:20

Not sure this includes an A frame though...

https://www.gov.uk/government/public...es-and-dollies

It says vehicle and A frame are treated as a trailer, and the only thing I can see that might cause a problem is the A frame must operate the towed cars brakes on all wheels, to a set level.

solarman216 11-03-2019 23:41

Mmmm over run piston on A frame via hose to piston fixed to brake pedal and some bracketry, sounds complicated also ignition would need to be on for brake lights then we have indicators, Mmmmm again Rick

Lazy-Ferret 11-03-2019 23:50

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Originally Posted by solarman216 (Post 361360)
Mmmm over run piston on A frame via hose to piston fixed to brake pedal and some bracketry, sounds complicated also ignition would need to be on for brake lights then we have indicators, Mmmmm again Rick

You need a trailer board, because being a trailer, it has to have triangular reflectors.

solarman216 11-03-2019 23:50

Just had a quick look through that and it is more complicated, upon reversing the trailer brakes must disengage automatically, if the trailer separates then the brakes must activate automatically as well, think a trailer is easier, Rick

macabethiel 12-03-2019 01:50

It is a bit of a legal minefield
 
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Originally Posted by Lazy-Ferret (Post 361357)
Not sure this includes an A frame though...

https://www.gov.uk/government/public...es-and-dollies

It says vehicle and A frame are treated as a trailer, and the only thing I can see that might cause a problem is the A frame must operate the towed cars brakes on all wheels, to a set level.

I was never a traffic officer but my understanding is that the towed vehicle will always need to be insured etc if all four wheels are in contact with the ground as it is still a Mechanically Propelled Vehicle being used on a road. (Using includes when it is parked on a public road)

Yes when the vehicle is attached by an A frame towing device it then becomes a trailer as far as towing regulations are concerned but at the same time it does not cease to be a Motor Vehicle.

Many scrap yards will use a recovery truck that has a hoist with two wheels lifted off the ground. There are some recovery devices that have the front wheels on a sort of ramp with separate front wheels forming part of the towing device. Either way most of the regulations refer to the recovery of a broken down vehicle from the roadside.

A proper trailer is also much safer.

Back in 1968 I was towed from Grimsby to Derby on the end of a rope - bad old days eh!
The towing vehicle was an Opel Commodore Automatic - my car then was a Mini.

Banshee 12-03-2019 08:58

Agree with all of the above regarding the vehicle having to be insured. Also Clive, if you put the transfer box in neutral you'll get no drive at all, it needs to be in 2WD :thumb2

Get a trailer for it mate, if you look around online you can find companies that will hire you an Ifor Williams etc for 50-80 a day from past experience. This then raises the question of when you passed your test too as if it was after 2001 you will need to take an additional driving test first :doh

Blocky10 12-03-2019 19:32

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Originally Posted by Banshee (Post 361365)
Also Jim, if you put the transfer box in neutral you'll get no drive at all, it needs to be in 2WD :thumb2

I think Jim is suggesting put it into neutral to cut all drive, for towing :thumbs

solarman216 12-03-2019 20:12

And it was not Jim but Clive who suggested neutral, Rick

Blocky10 12-03-2019 20:26

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Originally Posted by solarman216 (Post 361381)
And it was not Jim but Clive who suggested neutral, Rick

So it was :lol:lol

solarman216 12-03-2019 20:39

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Originally Posted by Blocky10 (Post 361382)
So it was :lol:lol

Zac started it, Rick


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